Economy

    Does anyone have a clue whether the economy will improve or not? Me and my friends find it hard to find MMOs like this one, the only other one would be Runescape 3 or old school. We've recently found this game and it's fantastic and I understand that this is still open beta, but has there been any word on fixing up the economy?


    In my honest opinion, I think they should do a wipe for release whenever it's planned to come out. It'll give everyone a fair chance to start the game on a set date. I think doing a wipe would also improve the economy if you do happen to make changes in it before the release. Some people only play these games for the grind and good economy, I hate seeing these websites where people are spending $2.50 for $5 million in-game while me, my friends and many other people are just here wanting to grind that money out and earn our items. There isn't much pleasure in grinding and earning our money when you can literally spend a small bit of cash for it, there wouldn't be any point in anyone playing the game if there's nothing unreachable. As I mentioned before, Runescape is an alternative game that is very grindy and has one of the best if not the best economy in an MMO. Maybe create a system that can maintain this games economy like they maintain theirs, and me plus many others who agree with me would actually start having more hope in this games future.


    Anyhow, I just think they should focus on fixing the economy and stuff similar to that instead of doing any additions or events/contests so the game is actually worth playing.

    It's a player-controlled market. It's not something Gameforge can change, I believe. You won't get a wipe because they don't want to wipe. With the current market system you'll see the market go through a roller coaster of ups and downs. I don't know what level you are but you get a lot of money just from drops at max level, so there's that.

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    It's a player-controlled market. It's not something Gameforge can change, I believe. You won't get a wipe because they don't want to wipe. With the current market system you'll see the market go through a roller coaster of ups and downs. I don't know what level you are but you get a lot of money just from drops at max level, so there's that.

    Yea, but I'm sure there's ways you can control the player-controlled market. Like I said Runescape does it with something called bonds and high alch.

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    It's a player-controlled market. It's not something Gameforge can change, I believe. You won't get a wipe because they don't want to wipe. With the current market system you'll see the market go through a roller coaster of ups and downs. I don't know what level you are but you get a lot of money just from drops at max level, so there's that.

    Yea, but I'm sure there's ways you can control the player-controlled market. Like I said Runescape does it with something called bonds and high alch.

    And than we have warframe, wich marker is 100% controlled by players.

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    try wipe everyone endgame who been putting in work quits never to return by by money.

    mess with market once again you aggravate the endgame players who thrive off of the market and their hard farming

    Improve server release other characters everyone happy.

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    It's a player-controlled market. It's not something Gameforge can change, I believe. You won't get a wipe because they don't want to wipe. With the current market system you'll see the market go through a roller coaster of ups and downs. I don't know what level you are but you get a lot of money just from drops at max level, so there's that.

    Yea, but I'm sure there's ways you can control the player-controlled market. Like I said Runescape does it with something called bonds and high alch.

    I can't say anything about Runescape since I only played in 2012, but the GE put limits on you right? I can't remember



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    It's a player-controlled market. It's not something Gameforge can change, I believe. You won't get a wipe because they don't want to wipe. With the current market system you'll see the market go through a roller coaster of ups and downs. I don't know what level you are but you get a lot of money just from drops at max level, so there's that.

    Yea, but I'm sure there's ways you can control the player-controlled market. Like I said Runescape does it with something called bonds and high alch.

    And than we have warframe, wich marker is 100% controlled by players.

    Yeah, but premium currency is the trade currency and credits is only a tax maneuver. You can't really compare Warframe to this type of market. We still don't have a solid "value" on SoulCash either.

    I don't see it happening for one single reason: Players have already purchased in-game items with their money. I'd disrespectful towards players who have invested in this game to wipe their items even in the official release.

    They already confirmed they weren't doing a wipe. I will say that there are ways to impact the in-game economy though.


    I will say though that though gold selling sites are against ToS 99% of the time, so I can only assume Gameforge will try and deal with them somehow. More often than not they're actually just trying to get account or credit card information.

    With the confirmation of no wipe, most players have decided to jump on the grind early and farm for next content.

    With prices the way they are now, we're actually pretty lucky compared to other servers.

    Runescape and any other MMO that allows trading will always have an underground gold farm. It's pretty normal, the only real way to get rid of it is to remove trading entirely. Which even then can still be manipulated, take RuneScape for example when they removed free trade a long time ago.

    Honestly the market was worse but has improved for now while everyone is leveling through content. Something I paid 1 to 2m for while I was leveling is only 20k now.

    MMOs that have established a market for currency:money are really nice, especially if they're controlled. However once we're stuck waiting for content like KR has for a year and a half I'm unsure how well that's going to be here.

    The economy here will be similar to Elswords if anything, once they can add a proper gifting system.

    Fixing what? I have not seen anything broken up to this point.


    A wipe does not solve anything. It's not about the amount of money, it's about the flow of money. If there is a lot of cash available fast you can naturally demand more for an item. Ignoring that they already said there will be no wipe, how would this solve this issue?


    If you want put a hard cap on it make cash currency available via ingame effort. That way you would just use the system instead of the player markt. As the bonus it would delete ingame currency.

    You can earn plenty of DZ in-game when you reach high level. The prices are all over the place because the game is still new. You can have prices at like 5m then in 2 days have it at 600k(The lvl55 crafted weapon for Lilly) Only problem I see in the game is inflation. Within months you will see people having like 500mil or something. Or have stuff selling for that high.

    People are selling $5Million Dzenai for $1.25 on websites, just the other day it was $2.50.

    The economy of the game is broken, especially since they're not planning on resetting accounts on the release.

    I mean bots are bots. They're gonna be around regardless.


    Thing is it's really hard to call the economy broken on something that hasn't even been around for a month I believe. Volatile? Sure. Broken? Probably not.

    Doing a wipe would do nothing but kill the game, especially since the cash shop is up and people have spent money on it. Also the reasoning of wanting one just because everyone could "be at the same start" or something like that when the game goes fully released is a bad reasoning. What about when the game is fully out and then say 1-2+ months later we get new content? Knowing that would bring more players (new and old) into Soul Worker...Would you also want the game to be wiped at that point as well so they can start at the same time? With how much everyone has spent on the game now (time and money), no one would want a wipe and I bet a large portion of players wouldn't even come back if one were to happen.


    And those are just websites trying to scam people out of their accounts or money, so they'll say anything that might look enticing to players. Eventually those bots would be banned or GF will find some solution to at least reduce them some time.

    Trusting gold-selling bots to actually give you money?



    Riiiight.




    How does one even define a "broken" economy? When no one is buying things off the market? But clearly people are still buying things. You can't expect people who convert real cash to Dzenai to be the only ones keeping things afloat. People are obviously still buying things at the prices they are currently which means that someone out there finds it an acceptable price.

    Well my definition of a broken economy is when the prices for gold drop so fast in only a few days. I understand some fluctuation in the prices, but a whole $1.25 in that short amount of time? Nawh honey

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    Well my definition of a broken economy is when the prices for gold drop so fast in only a few days. I understand some fluctuation in the prices, but a whole $1.25 in that short amount of time? Nawh honey

    who bases an economy off gold selling bots that basically use slave labour to farm gold and take your payment information..?

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    Well my definition of a broken economy is when the prices for gold drop so fast in only a few days. I understand some fluctuation in the prices, but a whole $1.25 in that short amount of time? Nawh honey

    who bases an economy off gold selling bots that basically use slave labour to farm gold and take your payment information..?

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